^ yep considering that BH methods really increase all the chances that your site will make the best in the business, but don't you think that it also increase the chance of being banned from SE's?... There's nothing wrong in following WH methods and look at the good side, even though its a slow process you'll gradually see what aspect your lacking of, in what process you need to do better. This gives you a chance to improve.

I am not saying that BH methods are not worth, but it should be used when its necessary.

Originally Posted by Robdale

But, don't you think if you follow WH methods you will get the business for long term. BH can bring you business in less time, agree but, the growth will low down if you stop doing BH methods.

Rob,

Black Hat brings business in less time? Are you sure about that? I doubt it bcos even if the optimization was coded in 1 day, it will take weeks to show up in the search engines to be able to work for you (not including site/sales enquiries happening) - that compared to instant set-up adverts which anyone can set up within 10 minutes.

Also I think everyone assumes their site will be on the first few pages of search engines for this fast seo to work, this is unrealistic and many keyword terms are ranked in the hundreds, so you could end up on page 500 for the keywords and nobody will search that deep. Or do you think only 10 others use the keywords that you do....

There are 1000's at least that WILL be using the exact same keywords you are using - the amount of exact same type websites out there will confirm this. Unless a website is so vastly different, it will use the same, popular keywords eg: web this, web site that, siteA, siteB, flower, flowers, florist, florists, marketing, web marketing etc.

So seo isnt faster results at all.

The whole point of BH is to get sites up faster and easier than WH by trying to find loopholes in the SE algos. Otherwise what would be the point of BH?

Originally Posted by Travelloger

The whole point of BH is to get sites up faster and easier than WH by trying to find loopholes in the SE algos. Otherwise what would be the point of BH?

Well if you know that, then so does everyone else. Do you really think the search engines will just let you gain advantage over them? I dont think so, or why would they penalize sites at all.

All this 'loophole crap' is used to gain unfair advantage, and the goal being to rank higher without paying for adverts - er, people are delusional to think they can just get away with this lol. Some tactics are allowed, but you go overboard and youll get wipped badly!

Pagerank penalties, and de-indexing will happen. These engines wont give you too much, bcos their business is built on paid advertising - so it amazes me how many can be so dumb about this. Okay put it another way - why do search engines design themselves with only 1 first/top page for each keyword - bcos they know only 10 companies will rank on it, so they get to charge the others to appear in paid adverts.

You cant win.

All definitions gathered at one place. Wonderful post. Thanks for sharing.

Originally Posted by Robdale

Hello Dear Friends,

I have noticed that many new members create threads just to ask about the terms of SEO. So, i have created this thread that includes all the SEO terms and would be easier to newbie's. Please add your terms if you have or any more info about the terms.

The newbie here says: Thanks a lot for sharing that lexique Robdale.

Big help!